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lpetersson ([personal profile] lpetersson) wrote2006-09-28 03:25 pm
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And while I'm all stoked...

And the problem is?
No seriously, I don't get it...
Prison isn't meant to be a holiday camp, it's meant to be a place you'd rather not be...

The chief inspector's report revealed 43% of prisoners, down from 64% in 2005, said staff treated them with respect.
Excellent, it's going the right way then. I have a bit of an issue with the idea that police should respect criminals...


Ooohhh, I'm in a ranty mood now...
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[personal profile] innerbrat 2006-09-28 02:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually, I disagree. Even criminals are human, and even they have human rights. And that includes a basic level of respect.

Not that prison should be a holiday camp: far from it, but vermin infested disease ridden places of cruel and unusual punishment? Nope.
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[personal profile] redcountess 2006-09-28 02:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, the lack of respect thing is a bit silly, but they do have the right to decent conditions, and safety, and not be *abused* by staff, especially if you believe prisons should try to rehabilitate, which I do.

[identity profile] nibber.livejournal.com 2006-09-28 02:46 pm (UTC)(link)
bring back public hangings and charge the audience entrance fees. Use the revenue to improve the quality of prison buildings. Make the prisoners do the work themselves and once they've finished make them work 12 hour days in the Quarry.

Hard labour gives a man time to reflect and rehabilitate in the time honoured fashion of crushing spirit and personality.

DON'T BE A CRIMINAL. ITS NOT DIFFICULT.

[identity profile] warlockuk.livejournal.com 2006-09-28 02:50 pm (UTC)(link)
They'll treat prisoners with respect if they don't act like cocks. The stats are meaningless - it could reflect that 57% of inmates are dickheads as opposed to a previous 36%.

They're more likely to say they've been mistreated too, to get one back on the screws.

As for rats/cockroaches... fuck 'em. :)

[identity profile] failing-angel.livejournal.com 2006-09-28 02:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Prison isn't meant to be a holiday camp, it's meant to be a place you'd rather not be...
That's quite surprising, considering Denmark is supposed to have a very good, liberal rehabilitation philosophy with its prison system. And consequently a better crime rate than us.

So, you view prison as a deterrant - why?

[identity profile] littlemsmortis.livejournal.com 2006-09-28 03:30 pm (UTC)(link)
People's rants are the best things on LJ!....I really like that icon, I meant to ask you before if I could pinch it?

Prison is intended as... ?

[identity profile] valkyriekaren.livejournal.com 2006-09-28 03:34 pm (UTC)(link)
a) a way of keeping criminals 'off the streets' and preventing them committing further crime;
b) a place in which to punish people;
c) incarceration as inherent punishment (i.e. restriction of movement, liberties)

in your opinion?

[identity profile] phantomsophie.livejournal.com 2006-09-28 07:13 pm (UTC)(link)
hear hear, I think they forfit their human rights by getting banged up the first place.

[identity profile] pelicanzed.livejournal.com 2006-09-29 10:25 am (UTC)(link)
Point taken (if not necessarily agreed with), but what about people who end up in jail when they shouldn't be?

[identity profile] the-elephant.livejournal.com 2006-09-29 12:18 pm (UTC)(link)
There are some basic human rights that should never be denied to anyone. Life, dignity, respect for one's being.

The default human has many more rights - the right to travel freely, for one. Criminals (justly!) lose this right, along with a host of other rights.

This doesn't mean that they should be tossed in a pit like human garbage to be gang-raped every day of their sentence, though. That kind of abuse should never be inflicted on ANYONE.

[identity profile] fishdry.livejournal.com 2006-09-30 11:49 am (UTC)(link)
Actually i was thinkin goverment should made some spa for prisoners, beauty saloon and gym.
I don't agrre with with idea to get prisoners back into the real life as quick as possible coz as we see it just doesn't work.
So let them stay bit longer and do something NOW I WILL GET BIT SICK but why not : There's plenty ways how to deal with mind and thinkin so prisons should look bit more intensive and get some exciting exercises ;) mindgames what about intensive course etc. morning embroider, afternoon washing up, evening farming ;)))) and keep them busy for 18 hours per day and they have to deserve food that should be something like reward for a work they've done.